Faith schools

Should they pay for themselves completely though? :think: Private schools do.

In fact, the more I think about this, the more I can't see the difference.

Private schools provide the opportunity for parents looking for a different education than the state system provides - in this case, generally academic attainment, though also better sporting opportunities etc etc.

They take a load off state schools as they are self-funded, and can choose their own focus.

Why should parents who want a religious focus recieve state funding for it? The state should provide a quality, 'core' education suitable for the majority of the country's children to meet the future needs of the country.

If people want to have a religious focus, then fine, but let them/their religion pay for it.

This would have the added advantage of increasing the pot of money for state school funding.

wouldn't it make sense that NO religion is taught in schools then it's up the PARENTS to get a pair of bollocks and decide for THEMSELVES whats best for their kids?

surley loads of different schools teaching many different things to lots of isolated communities is a shite idea?


the state should supply a basic level of schooling outside of religious freaks like Zionist Joe who's trying to convert us all?

I believe he prefers Semitic Joe They are one and the same

he's still trying to convert me...

i should stop reading his religious ramblings. i bet if he had a hook and a glass eye and he was on the steps of a mosque - he's had been deported by now!


pah... the internet has a lot to answer for... free speech and all

most muslims and jews that attend state supported faith schools couldn't afford a private education.

anyway I'm off for my religious education... which the state doesn't pay for

I hate to say it then.....but tough tits. Lots of parents want private eduction but can't afford it.

I don't think the state has an obligation to provide a school and an education for every religion out there.

i dont think faith shools should be soley funded by the government, a small subsidy perhaps but a state school should provide fundamental education, maths, english, science, technology, it, geography, history, foreign language, p.e and an option for specialist subjects, like art, music, media or business. its should provide students with an R.E lesson so pupils can get a basic undestanding of the faith groups. thats it, i dont believe religion should be intertwinned with education in state schools. if parents want to send their child to a specialist school then they should be prepared to send them to a private school and expect to foot the bill.

I think we should have what they have in france where religion is seperate from the state. The schools teach comparative religion but nothing more. People who want their children to have a religious education do it out of school hours, in sunday schools and so on.

the worst thing about faith schools is their divisiveness.

When the only people you grow up with share your beleifs you are never exposed to other points of view you become seperated from members of your community who have a different faith and never make friends accross the divide. This ultimately leads to situations like northern ireland where people are educated in either catholic or protestant schools and never get to meet anyone from the other faith and so it's easy to come to see them as the enemy

when i was in school we sang hyms and so did me mam and dad and that and just becasue people with diffrent religions and peopel who come over from diffrent countrys come 2 the school sand arnt happy with it we should hav 2 change it, or certain words 2 its politicly incorrect

lol you're all so far out of your depth that you're drowning in confusion

why are you talking of this issue as a muslim problem? The justification that most of you are using is that faith schools teach sepratism (which in England is a modern manifestation of islamophobia).

There are 7,000 state faith schools - 589 secondary and 6,384 primary out of a total of nearly 25,000. There are 32 Jewish state supported schools and 8 muslim schools.

British faith schools don't teach sepratism, I bet at least a quarter of this board went to a catholic school yet they haven't buried themselves in some extremist sect.

Faith schools teach the national curriculum and the designated faith... nothing more nothing less.

Why shouldn't Jews be able to learn both Judaism and the national curriculum in school? surely it is the choice of the parent?

should all schools teach all religions then, if they want?

religion is a lifestyle choice while education is a basic necessity for life.

What are you wittering on about scienceboy?

Religion contributes far more to the nation than drama studies, the moral values that religion introduces to children is something that would be hard to replicate in any other lesson.

Everything you learn in school (outside of science, math and english) is arguably a lifestyle choice... I don't understand how you can say that modern languages or music are valid while religion isn't?

Religion has contributed far more to the British mindset than the Spanish lannguage has

religaphobe

I couldn't disagree with this more strongly.

I can't stand this standard religious attitude that the teachings they subscribe to somehow make them a more moral person than an atheist with his/her sense of ethics.

It doesn't and it's bollocks.

religion TELLS people what to do, basic education gives people tools to make their own choices.

FACT (apparently, putting FACT at the end makes it true)

argue with that g-dboy

aye, henry the 8th made it up so he could get a divorce!!! awesome!

I can go one better, religion is wrong, basic education is right