Accidental Killing of the brazillian Lad

SLOT THE RAG HEAD


does my SAS talk get you hot?

What does this have to do with Ace ventura pet detective Simon?

bollocks the guys on the ground are the eyes... they watch him walk casually to the station, travel ona bus, pick up a news paper, they can clearly see he's not asian... they're just as mcuh to blame.

If your holding a gun you need to be able to fire it (which they clearly couldn't 3 shots missed and could of easily killed other innocents)... but you need the brains to be able to work out whether or not to kill someone... This wasn't a split second decision they followed him from his house onto a bus and then onto a station.

You're talking shit science.

THEN WHY LET HIM ON A FUCKING BUS?!?!?!?

andy_rocks cocks.

it was a different teams that did the initial following/surveilance of the flat to the bizzies in flak jackets that piled into the tube station, as far as i'm aware.

what the chuff am i still sitting here for? i have a life outside of weekdays 8:30>5.... sometimes...

^ lawyers questions

MArce you hope there is NO investigation into a inncocents mans execution with all the evidence that it wa snot done by the book??? Are you MAD

cock rocker in a civilised society you cant gun down innocent civilians.

This looks like a straight up execution:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1739960,00.html

Thing is this brazialian bloke looked nowt like an asian so are any of us safe from a bullet in the head or 11???

The police fucked up - how can you sit there and defend them.

If he was indeed a suicide bomber he shouldn't of been allowed to board a bus. He could of killed innocent civilians like they did in the last attack.

After alloowing him to travel a bus and realising he hadn't blown up anyone - he should of been confronted before the tube.... Not allowed onto the tube then executed.

People liek you scare the shit out of me.

This was not excusable - an innocent man was killed because of poor policing and you muppets are portecting the police.

I think nobody can argue that the police fucked up, i wanna know WHO polices the police and are they allowed to get away with these mistakes, what if it was on eof your family how would you feel then???

I agree with this BUT this guy was not a suicide bomber, nor did he act like one, nor did the police follow protocol so they shoul dbe punished like in any profession such a massive mistake would be punished

I've never said one person should be held accountable (although ian blair should be responsoible for his lying devious ways)... But if you're holding a weapon you should use it responisbly.

Not fire 11 shots and miss with 3.

Not gunning down a civilian you know has traveled a bus.
Not gunning down a civilian you can see has no obvious signs of a bomb.
Not gunning down a civilian that hasnt been confronted.

The police force should eb held accountable.

You've pinned a man down on the floor - he is unable to move.

Do you look for a bomb, do you ask his name, do you tell everyone to get out of the carriage or do you shoot him 11 times?

The shoot to kill policy works in israel... but we dont live in israel and terrorist attacks are few and far between, we can't use foreign policies that aren't suited to our climate.

Cant argue with that, If that is the case the men responsible NEED to be investigated

if your going to quote me, quote me in full.

A trigger happy copper operating under knee jerk policies.... It was a volatile environment post-21-7, police officers were scared as was the intelligence... Instead of acting rationally armed police fired 11 shots at an unconfronted civilian.... This was bad policing on everyones part.

A foreign policy that has now been proven to not suit the UK climate.

had they confronted the man at the station this wouldn't of happened, had they confronted the man at the house this wouldn't of happened, had they confronted the man on the bus this wouldn't of happened, had they confronted the man on the train this wouldn't of happened.

There were multiple oppertunities to stop this suicide bomber without using force.

Ian Blair begged for an internal inquiry.

Had he had his way there would of been no real investigation and more ocvering up... you're a deluded boy.

Individuals are also influenced by previous events... I know if I was instructed to shoot to kill I'd find out as much background information as possible... had the subject been confronted, was he carrying any suspicious objects, what he dressed in a manner that could conceal suspicious objects, did he look muslim, had he acted suspicously... all logical questions you'd ask before taking someone life. All could of been met with 5 second answers.

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ok if a suspect bomber is leaving a house and you watch him wait for a bus - you confront him here... before he has boarded his potential target.

You dont shoot him, you take him aside - at best he's going to take out one policeman.

You dont wait for him to board the fucking train!!!!

Had he been a suicide bomber there would of been a shit load of civilians.

"He's Here"

BOOOM

This was handled in an amateur way and is proof that shoot to kill policies dont work in the UK, we dont have armed police at every station and never will, we dont have a steady stream of suicide bombers attacking stations....

Why do we need shoot to kill policies?

Purely so the soldiers involved don't end up being tried for doing their jobs.