Capitalism past its sell by date?

Capitalism past its sell by date?

Now I know this is absoloute stupidity creating a thread on political issues - as the vast majority of intelligent people left long ago leaving faux-intelligence their wake (snack, nass,amyblh, etc.)

Who knows maybe the goon platoon will suprise me and put forward some suprisingly intelligent arguements

This weeks media has been littered with inhumain attrocities our capitalist overlords have been commiting (from the pre-planned oil war to subsidising western farmers while exploiting the third world). I was wondering how long people think capitalism has left before it trips over its own clunky feet?

Every era comes to an end be it feudalism or communism, as everywhere bar the promise messageboard becomes more aware of the world around them, people are finally standing up to capitalist corporations and who knows in 10 years time there may be a little justice.

Also wondering if we have any capitalists on the messageboard?

How do u figure? Do you think the third world will let us piss on them forever? Do u think the west hav no morals at all?

You have a very restricted outlook on plitics.

Lets take the roman empire, all the nations they conquered or came into contact with, aspired to be like them (just look @ bath ).... Just because at the present date your system is the most powerful/afluent/influencia in the world it does not mean its invincible.

With organisations like fair trade constantly challenging the world trade organisation - we're starting to see cracks in the system - 90% of world isn't going to stand by and watch 10% get richer and richer.

Captialism doesn't work - how can it with such an injust distribution of wealth... It may work in our favour - but the rest of the world suffers.

is this about trance?

Why would it take a war?

The world is forever changing... Just look @ the Uk the minimum wage is hardly a capitalist thing... For pure capitalism look @ the days fo cotton mills and pit mining, todays capitalism has already evolved... There are limits to the rich getting richer and exploiting the poor is becoming harder and harder... Granted its a different story for third world countries - but I'm positive we'll sort our doorstep then look to fix elsewhere.

yes

The structure of society would change in dramatic ways with the fall of captilism some would say for the better , but what do you replace it with. History is litterd with revolutionary changes in social order yet still people have different views , parties have different policies and we end up in one form or another back to where we started looking for the end of capittlism or socialism or anything else that comes along. Would the world really be a better place without capitilism????

but on the whole the standard of living is better and better...

Who knows maybe we'll come a full cirle back to communism

Also the fall maybe wont beas noticable, I think it'll be gradual.

You fucking what?!?!?!?

Capitalists do not support the minimum wage! Why do you think they have their factories in the phillipines where minimum wages do not exist.

Do we inhibbit the same planet

It would not take a revolution - it would take gradual progression.

Where would it all start ? what movement would need to be made ? what decsions would change ? which country would not conform and wouldnt that cause a war? ??? It all leads to the same eventuality one side will not agree with the other and we will find again that the social changes will be different and in some cases exactly oposite and we would be back to the begining of this debate ! Unles a new and completely different social order is created we have a choice of what ,,, in my view its either comunism, socialism or capitilism and which has been proven to work best???? there are good points and bad for all but the bottom line is capitilism has proven far more sucsessful!

Joe your gonna have your very own file at M.I.5 soon, they hear and see everything!

Far more succesfull than what?

You've lost me, the slave system, feudalism, etc. were all more succesfull than systems @ their date - but they came to an end... History has proven every stsyem comes to an end - why would capitalism be any different.

Capitalism is simply the rich get richer and the poor are kept poor... I don't understand how you consider that a successfull system?

How does capitalism work best when a fraction of the worlds population exploit the rest? I don't understand how you can begin to believe how that will last forever.

the revolution will not be televised

I dont believe it will last forever . but what i do believe is that at the moment for me it is the only system worth utilising ! Comunism is done for it is far too idolistic to expect that belief system to ever return ! socialism is falling you said it yourself earlier so what are you left with! Im not saying i agree with a captilist system wich exploits poorer countries What im saying is what else do you have?????

I don't knwo what your left with... I'm just intelligent I'm not a clairvoyant genius

However we're already starting to see little digs at the capitalist world as people tune into the fact big businesses run the planet and we're merely drones... Be it in the form of fair trade or working unions.

People aren't as easily exploited and they're becoming wiser and wiser

I still don't udnerstand hwo u can consider capitaliasm successfull.

Agreed small changes are coming around !

As for it being sucessful it depends on your view . Capitilism has been hugeley successfull for western countries in terms of economic growth and improving the GDP!